"We want to prevent people from moving into violent Christian nationalism and the way to do that is to stary by understanding what's driving them there to begin with. It's fear and a sense of group humiliation.

From a Christian community standpoint, we need to get back to teach what Jesus taught us; we are going to be persecuted, and that is the way of Jesus. Jesus was persecuted and he promises we will have trials like he did. And he gives us a way in which we walk through those trials, and that way is not through the sword, it's not fighting back... that reduces the number of people that are susceptible to violent Christian nationalism."