00:00 Introduction.
00:35 Big Tech will manage regulation. What should be done to avoid circumventions and to move the DMA beyond mere incremental improvements?
02:30 Antitrust didn't work as it should. What should be done to improve it.
05:30 Is the new policy about facilitating new entry?
07:00 Isn't it too late for the DMA to challenge the entrenched status of gatekeepers?
08:20 Maybe industrial data is where the new opportunity is?
09:30 Investments required to make a paradigmatic change in this game are so huge that only Big Tech (essentially) can afford them. They are scared mainly of each other – and it is a real conundrum.
10:20 Are we okay with the super-heavyweight companies competing with each other and is it the only realistic way?
11:40 But maybe it is precisely here where the ambition of regulators should stop?
12:45 Participative antitrust & regulatory dialogue.
14:50 Are regulators these days in position to make really informed decisions?
15:40 Regulatory dialogue as a comfortable salon... Between informed decision and regulatory capture.
17:30 Lowering the burden of proof, shifting the standard of proof?
18:00 Too generic definitions of obligations.
19:40 Accessing to algorithms – the gap in knowledge.
21:20 Ex-post rules were focused not at the core of the issues, but on the matters which were (only) possible to prove.
23:50 Remedies. Informed, technically robust and sound remedies.
25:00 Privacy and competition: two worlds: exploitative and exclusionary modalities.
26:30 Gatekeepers from privacy villains to privacy guardians.
28:50 Antitrust regulators working without data scientists are blind in the digital world.
Privacy – Monopoly dilemma.
30:55 Lack of knowledge or a shift to a more political (and thus more discretional) normative perception of competition policy?
31:50 Pro-competition while anti-privacy – or vice versa: what should we do?
32:40 Tradeoffs
34:05 Very helpful recommendations to young professional and university graduates (economists & lawyers – and indeed data scientists).

Cristina Caffarra (Partner, Head of Keystone Europe) is a leading authority in the area of competition law, economics and policy. In this conversation we touched upon a number of issues related to the functionality of the new EU competition regime for digital markets in general and on the enforcement of the Digital Markets Act specifically.

The conversation is conducted by Prof. Oles Andriychuk – Newcastle Law School, Newcastle University, UK

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