great conversation on a wide range of topics: money, freedom, military industrial complex, building on open protocols, evolution of twitter and a lot more

"My biggest fear for me [or Bitcoin] is becoming irrelevant." Jack talks about Bitcoin in a relatable and religious sense. It’s a “beyond me” mission and that dynamic is one way Jack talks about technology. As a Christian, I’m part of a communal system that transcends myself and self-heals/evolves across generations. It’s an interesting parallel to reflect on.

"The thread of our conversation is that we're in a moment in time where we're stepping back and looking critically at the abstractions we've created upon the natural world and questioning those."

If you're interested in the origins of Twitter and Jack's reflections on the Twitter Files, he talks about this 2 hours into the conversation.

"I don't believe any one company should own the public conversation which is why I believe in protocols such as nostr. I believe Twitter would benefit greatly by building on top of nostr because it takes a lot away a lot of liability... a company can be a part of [the public conversation] and it can be built on top of it. [these companies] own the storage, the presentation/discovery layer, and the distribution all in one stack... I don't think that's right for humanity."